Why Gifted Students Still Hate School, Part II
I posted last time about my theory about why gifted students hate school (short answer: scary teachers) and added, somewhat mysteriously, that I would write more about the issue.
Here it is, in brief: Gifted students hate school because school is a sucking quagmire of mediocrity.
Okay, I know this hardly qualifies as an original thought, but perhaps my personal experiences can enlighten the issue a little bit: the mediocrity begins in society, but it seems to be concentrated, like B.O. in a cabbie’s upholstery, in schools of education.
In society, for which schools are a major tool of “socialization” (a word every homeschooling parent rightly fears, particularly since California judge H. Walter Croskey recently admitted that a central reason all students should be sent to public school is to enforce their “loyalty to the state“), mediocrity has been a rising fashion trend for some time now. Certainly television has elevated mediocrity to the status of a spectator sport: on reality TV, quite literally, anyone can be a star. Long gone are the days of celebrity when maybe you needed some kind of….oh, you know, talent to be a star: beauty, singing ability, a lovely figure, a handsome face, the ability to dance, act, or tell a joke. Now, you just put yourself on YouTube and you’re an instant classic: you become the Leave Britney Alone guy or the Temper Tantrum About the Car girl, or (unwittingly and unwillingly) the Star Wars kid. The line between talent and talentlessness has become so muddled and obscure that it’s hard to tell the difference anymore. Mediocrity rules.

The problem with gifted students is that basically by definition, they’re not mediocre.
The problem with schools is that basically by definition, they are.
Schools of education have taken the job of apotheosizing mediocrity – enshrining it, insisting on it, working dutifully to ensure that mediocrity defines the system from A to Z starting with the very people who populate those schools: ironically, the very worst students in the system. The influential 1983 report A Nation at Risk, whose findings have not substantially changed since its publication, found that too many teachers are “drawn from the bottom quarter of graduating high school and college students.” Those same students become teachers, so rather than your kids or my kids being taught by the best and brightest (or at least the solidly competent), they’re being taught in too many cases by people who essentially weren’t very good at school.
What’s worse, many of those students of education become professors of education: a case of the blind leading the blind. Acknowledging some of these problems, the University of Chicago, one of the most academically demanding universities in the country, utterly eliminated its own college of education some time ago, saying, “Our primary criterion in making this recommendation was academic excellence. If the department had been excellent, but costly, I certainly would not have recommended closing the department.” But it wasn’t. So they did.
Obviously – or maybe not so obviously – not every teacher is mediocre. Lest I be misunderstood here, I’ve been proud to know a great number of excellent, inspiring, and professional teachers whose energy and ability to turn on those mental lights made a profound difference for me.
However, let me hasten to say this: they were the exceptions to the rule.

When I was going to the College of Education at Unimpressive Local University, I was surrounded by students and professors who were a great deal like my observer Pat. These people weren’t evil, weren’t scheming, weren’t “bad” in any moral or ethical sense. Most of them were in education because they “loved kids,” which isn’t necessarily a good enough reason to think they could teach them, but on the whole, loving kids is a good quality for a teacher to possess. Many were in education because something else – their go-nowhere day job, their marriage, their ambitions to become a lawyer – hadn’t panned out. Quite a few were in education because they thought it would be easy: job security with summers off.
One thing you need to understand, though: Not knowing the Nation at Risk data at the time, I naturally thought that people who wanted to be teachers were probably people who had excelled in school.
At first, I couldn’t figure out why being at the College of Education felt so different from my experience earning my M.A. in Useful Content, but I kept flashing on a few key elements such as…
… the girl who pronounced the French poststructuralist Jacques Derrida’s last name as if it were a snack chip. When she made fun of Derrida’s theories – or what she said were Derrida’s theories; they didn’t resemble my understanding of Derrida – no one corrected her.
… the teacher who looked and sounded like a clone of Tipper Gore who taught Methods of Teaching Literature (a multiply oxymoronic course title, as it turns out). Actually, Professor Tipper didn’t actually teach “methodS,” but more like “method,” period.

The method in question was reader-response, which consists of a student reading a text and saying what they found (in Professor Tipper’s words) to be “imPORdunt” about it and how it made them “FEEyul.” You weren’t supposed to mention what the author’s point was or how she used the tools of language or argumentation to communicate it, as I found out. The dance of the author’s language, the stretch and press of her attempt to put into words an elusive emotional state or vast, unspoken realization wasn’t important — sorry, imPORdunt — and what she was trying to reveal to the world about the world’s condition wasn’t of interest either; what mattered is how you felt about it.
The first time I tried to respond to what was impordunt, I mentioned the one element I had enjoyed in the poem she’d given us: that there was a (possible?) allusion to a line in the book of Genesis about “dust thou art and to dust thou shalt return.” Yeah, I know it was a stretch: I based that idea on the fact that there was the word “dust” in the poem and someone died at the end. Eh. Oh, well.
“How did it mayke yew FEEyul?” Professor Tipper smiled. She was one of those people whose teeth are too white. “What you said is very innerestin, but the imPORdunt thing is how it made you FEEyul.”
How did it make me feeyul? A little bored. Somewhat nauseated.
This method of teaching, I thought, would basically turn the students into little one-celled paramecia: creatures not capable of any real insight into the author’s point they’d found there in the words and used their brains to bring forth, but creatures only capable of the bluntest responses to the bluntest of stimuli. Reader-response wouldn’t teach students about anyone else’s conceptions of the world, only about how others’ words existed to stimulate their own self-referential feelings – whatever those feelings were and whether or not they had anything to do with the author’s meaning or point. An endless reinforcement of a tautologically narcissistic worldview, this method would give those students nothing beyond themselves and hardly even that.
“It’s kind of hard to express,” I lied.
“Weyul, just tell us.”
“Really? You really want to know?” I asked somewhat skeptically.
Professor Tipper nodded brightly.
“Maybe you should call on someone else.”
She declined.
“Okay…I feel…that this is an emotionally exploitative work whose main purpose is to make the readers regret teen suicide, but, well…it’s about as honest and truthful as a Very Special Lifetime Channel program with lots of hugging and learning.”
Professor Tipper’s smile vanished. “Um,” she said, turning away from me. “Verry innerestin. Anyone else?”
I soon found out that very little was demanded of me academically in the College of Education. In place of the long analytical papers I’d written for my Useful Content degree — papers where I’d been required to micro-analyze data and lengthily explain in what way that data applied to my thesis (and find out again and again where I’d basically failed to do that and needed to work harder), I was essentially asked to do little more than make the occasional silly presentation or contribute to some nebulous “group project” in which any of the work or thought I’d done was subsumed in the mediocre whole.
Now, maybe the stuff I would’ve done otherwise would’ve been lousy on its own – but if this makes any sense, at least it would’ve been my lousy work. I might have learned from my lousiness that way. In the College of Education, even though I’d come there to learn, I learned very little, and what I did learn, I learned from competent experts – in short, people who were not professors of education, but who were actual classroom teachers like Barb. If it hadn’t been for Barb, I would quite literally have had not the first clue what to do on the first day of school — or the other 179 that came after it. I
When I went back for my endorsement in gifted education, I was less surprised but no less dismayed to find that education classes really hadn’t changed. I already knew a decent amount about giftedness from reading articles on Hoagies and Davidson Institute of Talent Development’s website, or reading books like Deborah Ruf’s Levels of Giftedness or certainly the Templeton Report. However, very little was taught to me in the gifted education classes – and I don’t mean, “I already knew a bunch of stuff that they were teaching” but more, “They didn’t teach very much content.” One class was entirely devoted to how to use PowerPoint. I don’t mean one class period; I mean an entire class. Hey, I admit I had no clue how to use PowerPoint and actually did learn, but I ended up devoting far more hours to my projects than they deserved – dedication that earned me the title of classroom PowerPoint God, an honor that was bestowed on me unfairly, mostly because PowerPoint acted on me as heroin does to an addict: with my sad, sick, and completely anal-retentive fixation on trivial details, I could not leave these stupid projects alone until they were absolutely perfect.
Irony time: to the best of my knowledge, I will never actually use this technology in the classroom.
The sad thing was that I really wanted to write a paper on profound giftedness and explore the topic as I had explored the texts I’d read as a graduate student in Useful Content: I wanted that sense of mental dig, of grappling with the logic of my argument and finding sources to support it, but I was told to do a PowerPoint, and that pretty much limits what you can say to a few words on a handful of slides. I should add that even though I’ve now taken seven classes in gifted education, I really don’t know much more than I did after reading the Gifted 101 articles on Hoagies — and I wouldn’t have the first idea what to do in a gifted classroom.
In short, there is a relentless tide of mediocrity in schools of education, one that’s nearly impossible to swim through because only your personal ethic, your sense of wanting to do an outstanding job on whatever meaningless, useless, time-wasting group project you’ve been assigned stands between you and just doing whatEVurrr to get the meaningless grade you were going to get anyway. Going through education classes was like trying to sharpen a knife on a marshmallow – you meet with no substance, no real resistance. You learn to be mediocre. You learn that not to be mediocre — to strive for scholarship, to insist on a level of academic rigor — is either viewed as useless or pretentious, or it’s groupworked and PowerPointed out of existence. Mediocrity is the norm — and that creates an environment that is downright hostile to gifted students.
I’ll say this for the week and end here: Schools are not about achievement. I used to think that teachers would love gifted students, or at least tolerate them. Now I think that the system — and of course, some individual teachers themselves — actively hate them. But more later.

Great article, to which I agree wholeheartedly. At my previous teaching location, I think we had a large percentage of excellent, knowledgeable teachers. Not so coincidentally, most of the teachers I respected there didn’t have degrees in education, like you and I, they have degrees, and often experience, in their specialty. Nonetheless, there still seemed to be a large number of teachers who… let me think of the best way to describe them… hmm… had big hearts but probably struggled in their education classes.
In my current teaching location, I find that although the administration respects me, my peers often do not. I have a low tolerance for mediocrity and struggle to keep my mouth shut. Last year it was clearly implied to me that much of the staff would like me to lower the bar because I was setting a “professional expectation too difficult too match.”
Before I read your entry here, I thought that the few exceptionally bad teachers were making the talented teachers look bad, but now I understand that the few talented teachers are carrying the water for everyone else.
I would love to discuss this more.
MrW
Woohoo! Tell us what you really think!
. “Trying to sharpen a knife on a marshmallow.” Ex-cell-ent.
Thanks for expressing so well from inside the teaching profession what I from the outside have only been able take a stab at.
And your description of being asked to respond to that poem in class really struck a nerve. Although a voracious reader, C. has never liked the whole “reader’s response” journal approach to reading, the whole “How did it mayke yew FEEyul?” Maybe because it can be so vacuous. Maybe because it’s none of the teacher’s–and the rest of the students’–damn business.
Mr. W, I would love, LOVE to know what constitutes setting the professional bar too high to reach. I really would.
SwitchedOnMom, I couldn’t agree more — it IS vacuous, and it isn’t anyone else’s business. If it’s useful at all, it’s useful as a very preliminary starting point to larger discussion, as in, “How did it make you feel? Disgusted? When? Okay, why do you think William Goldinghad Piggy killed that way? What do you think was his point in doing that?”
However, we were never taught that part. ;-|
Obviously not the two grammatical errors I found in my first comment –
(Sadly, more errors probably exist, and I haven’t noticed them yet.)
As far as I can tell, only a few significant differences exist between me and many others at this school: I teach in front of the class everyday, all day; I control my classes without being overly cruel or dictatorial; I have higher expectations than other teachers, although still not high enough; and… wait for it… I like the subject I teach.
Although it doesn’t sound like it when I write here, I do question regularly whether or not I’m a good teacher and whether or not I’m challenging my students. I suffer greatly from the oxymoron of insecure-arrogance with my job, and parenting for that matter. I think this metacognitive process with all of its anguish is necessary and helpful.
This questioning has brought me to the conclusion that I need to move out of teaching reading and return to teaching literature with writing. I’m bored with the materials I have and am required to use. I also miss dealing with the smarter kids.
MrW.
Mr. W, you said, ” have higher expectations than other teachers, although still not high enough; and… wait for it… I like the subject I teach.”
I honestly think this is a crucial element to any good teacher — heck, any good parent, any good ditch-digger, any good ANYthing: if you don’t like and don’t care about the work you do, you’ll do it poorly. I got into it because I lovelovelove seeing that lightbulb go on in someone’s head.
You also said, “Although it doesn’t sound like it when I write here, I do question regularly whether or not I’m a good teacher and whether or not I’m challenging my students. I suffer greatly from the oxymoron of insecure-arrogance with my job, and parenting for that matter. I think this metacognitive process with all of its anguish is necessary and helpful.”
Oh, heck yeah. If it makes you feel better, I do the same thing. I’m glad when people praise me for my teaching mostly because I prefer it to “Gee, you suck,” but I never feel as if I inhabit that praise or truly deserve it. I think if I didn’t criticize myself, I’d lose the ability to smell those times when I’m full of it. I’d have academic anosmia.
You said, “This questioning has brought me to the conclusion that I need to move out of teaching reading and return to teaching literature with writing. I’m bored with the materials I have and am required to use. I also miss dealing with the smarter kids.”
Then by all means do. Anytime I can help, let me know. Beg, borrow, or steal anything you need or would find useful from my school website – you know the address.
I forgot to mention that I’m pretty sure we had Mrs. Gore for Teaching Method as well. I was as impressed as you were.
What is it about teen suicide? Why do so many lit classes seem to touch on this theme?
Your bluntness made me laugh as I was nodding along. Believe me, I tried to take college students trained in this method of “analysis,” and get them to say something — anything! — interesting about literature. “Opinion” and “feeling” are the primary foci of student papers, suggesting that the students are very comfortable in the assumption that the emotional reaction of a college junior to The Merchant of Venice is inherently interesting. Even genuine reader-response criticism is about understanding the method by which readers come to their response and the elements that contribute to it, and not the response itself.
On the other hand, once you could get a student into thinking about aspects of the literature — form, context, themes, whatever, even in a very unsubtle way, you could see a little light come on — oh, there’s something happening here! That didn’t automatically make them brilliant critics, but it seemed to make their experience of the class much more enjoyable and, I hope, educational.
Wow, Shaun, you mean that people can actually be *improved* by working through someone else’s perceptions of the world, the tools by which they make that perception clear, or the historical matrix in which the work existed?
Heretic.
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As a child, I was pronounced gifted at 10 years old. Nobody told my parents what to do with a gifted child and nobody at school seemed to know either. School bored me and I underachieved. I have always believed gifted kids are “special needs” kids too. Why isn’t there the investment at that end of the scale? Thanks for saying what I’ve felt for a long time.
Heather, I couldn’t agree more — other than the push in gifted education after Sputnik, I can’t think of a time when America truly valued gifted kids.
You’ve inspired me. I hope you don’t mind that I quoted paragraphs of your blog (with links back) in my blog post that I wrote as a homage. (http://theinfamousj.livejournal.com/331504.html)
Your experiences with the School of Education mirror mine. Thank you for being so articulate.
Excellent, excellent, excellent. I’ve been arguing many of these points with my own administrators. Right now, my school is investing piles of money to try to lower our dropout rate, but are doing nothing at all to help or inspire the other end. I’ve proposed a dozen different ideas for enrichment activities that would only be offered to those who had earned it–not necessarily through classroom grades. All of my suggestions have been met with a polite smile and nod, “That’s a good idea.” Is any of it being implemented? No.
I am also going to be in a similar boat with my “gifted” eldest child. He was put into a “Gifted and Talented” program in kindergarten, but he was taken out of class in the middle of other activities to go to a room by himself, given a handout that explained that he was supposed to invent something and then left alone for a period of time. Then, he was returned to his classroom where his classmates filled him in on all of the fun he missed. After a month of this, he chose to drop out of the program. He felt that he had been punished for being “gifted.”
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Wow, Jasmine — I’m really flattered! Thank you!
I’ve mentioned that my SpEd co-teacher isn’t the sharpest nail in the gun, but she has a big heart. Following my lead, as I’ve been working with her for two years now, she doesn’t get frustrated when students correct her errors.
Today we were doing some handwriting practice with poetry. (I know handwriting isn’t in the curriculum for 9th grade remedial reading, but hey, it’s important for my kids.) Since Co-Teach has better cursive writing (I know my weaknesses.), she has taken these biweekly lessons on herself.
In this week’s lesson, she wrote a stanza from a poem in cursive and challenged our kids to find errors in her cursive writing technique. Holy Crap! Our remedial students caught a spelling error, punctuation errors, and a non-stop progression of poorly shaped letters: all unintentional by Co-Teach. In one class, I actually had to put a stop to it after about 5 minutes and a bit too much glee from the kids.
Co-Teach took it all in stride, but I don’t think she garnered any respect from the students. Graciously admitting to a mistake or two over time is one thing, letting students rip you apart, mostly over minutia, is another. Whew!
-MrW
I am laughing so hard, I may wake up the house. My favorite crappy movie of the day is Idiocracy. Until now, it was the only public expression that captured how I really feel, sorry, view society. Or, at least the only humorous expression of this notion. Now, I’ll just point to your article.
Brava!
Hey, glad to oblige.
One minute, please!
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I like the article, but am not sure about your technology phobia. No professor I know blindly reads only the bullet points on slides. They lecture just the same as if the slides weren’t there. PP is just a guide and is great for showing diagrams, charts, images, or anatomy (not much different than a projector, etc.). It’s great for reinforcing knowledge visually too. I learned PP on my own as a freshman. It’s rarely time consuming once you know it well. You have to realize you are dealing with a new generation of kids that are very immersed in technology. Anyway, if you feel you are bucking the herd too much and are unhappy, why don’t you try a new profession somewhere else in education or out of education? Apply to teach at a private school or a school district that is more well-organized and challenging academically instead of wasting your breath on a blog? You sound like you have too much to offer to waste your time where you’re at now.
Also, I wouldn’t equate “talent” as you do with “good looks.” More to having talent than that! If you ever lived in LA, you’d realize most actors and actresses aren’t the brightest sort. Give me a good YouTube video any day over another crappy low IQ action adventure blockbuster or 50% commercials. There are many gems among the rubble within the Internet. Again, I’m picking up on technophobia. There has always been mindless entertainment around, no matter the generation, the delivery mode or the historical context. What’s important is that we are allowed a CHOICE in picking what’s good or bad. It doesn’t matter if it’s a high paid bimbo acting in a million dollar movie, or just a kid expressing his political ideas on YouTube. Who’s to say, limited entry to expression in the media equals quality. I love hearing what normal, everyday people have to say. Sometimes they say it far better than a “professional.”