Good Option for Gifted Kids

It’s not exactly a revelation of stunning originality to point out that if you’re the parent of a child who basically doesn’t fit the school system’s age-grade lockstep plan, it can be challenging to fit an education to your child. There’s no sense in trying to fit your child to the education that’s available.

On that note, really, thank God for distance education. BYU, the University of Indiana, Stanford University’s EPGY program, and a host of others provide distance education options for university classes, of course, but what some folks might not know is that they also have classes at the high school and middle school levels as well — and best of all, they’re accredited, which means that if you’re a homeschooling parent whose child may (at some point) want to attend high school in the future, she or he won’t have to sit through Freshman English again if they’ve passed their distance ed. coursework in that area.

Best of all, for parents of gifted or profoundly gifted children, none of these programs gives a rat’s caboose about the child’s age.

This is really a miracle when you think about it, given the fact that basically no school system would even consider the kind of radical acceleration some gifted kids genuinely require. I’m not talking about one or two grades: that’s relatively easy and it happens (usually with politely pitched battles between parents and administrators) from time to time. Instead, I’m talking about six or seven grades, and that ain’t gonna happen in public school, no how, no way. Pleasantly enough by contrast, when we registered at Distance Ed for freshman English and gave the date of birth, the person registering didn’t so much as blink (or appear to blink; this was on the phone). It was no longer the Dreaded Birthdate of Doom.

Interestingly, the Distance Ed. course uses the same textbook as I’m supposed to be using for a class I’m teaching at Techno High School in the fall, I was amused to see. The teacher assigns a boatload more writing than I assign…I’m thinking of doing the same and seeing if I can get away with it. Anyway.

I find myself wondering what people did before the invention of the Internet and the popularity of homeschooling. I have a feeling that most of them probably did nothing — not because they didn’t want to do nothing, but because there was a dearth of options. I’m fairly sure that a parent whose kid needed radical acceleration — especially in a “fuzzy logic” area like English — was probably given the usual host of excuses: “Well, Billy can read very well, and yes, he’s read Romeo and Juliet before, but he’s never read it with me. I’m sure he’s going to get a lot out of the class,” or “Elizabeth seems to have a good grasp of the material, but her organizational skills and handwriting really need work, so I think we’ll keep her where she is right now.”

And, though some parents fought the system, most probably figured out it was a losing battle and told their kid, in whatever way they told them, that they’d basically have to put up with it, that this was the fate of being an academically able kid in a system that essentially doesn’t want or care about the academically able: sitting in class, making no waves, and just enduring it until it passes, like labor pains.

Thank God those aren’t the only options now.

Yeah, there are some down sides to distance ed for gifted kids, to be sure. One of the most unanticipated (okay, unanticipated by me…) issues was one of worldly experience. For instance, one Distance Ed prompt for an English journal assignment asked the student to explain about a time when they’d felt betrayed by a friend. Depending on the child’s age, that simply may never have happened. As a result, the child will basically have to a) draw upon vicarious experience gleaned from reading, or b) use her or his imagination. The other down side is that, like most distance education, the parent has to do the bulk of the actual teaching. The distance ed. people provide you the “bones”; that is, the textbook, the assignments, the course goals, and some skeletal explanations, but for the most part, the discussion of the actual material, that give-and-take of initial understanding, clarification, examples, elaboration — that job is left up to the parent. That’s not much different from homeschooling itself (and it’s actually less work than homeschooling overall), but the parent needs to know about the subject matter in decent enough depth so that they can work with the material.

Overall, it’s a good deal.

~ by adsoofmelk on July 12, 2008.

21 Responses to “Good Option for Gifted Kids”

  1. I would love to here more about your experience and where you did it — e-mail me privately if you like. We are thinking of doing both English and German via BYU this fall -EPGY is just so expensive!

  2. I could handle the drawbacks you mention if there weren’t the third drawback: some of these programs are massively expensive. I considered Johns Hopkins, but the courses are so expensive. I would have found a way to pay for them had it been absolutely necessary, but it would have been a strain. I do agree they are a great idea, and I’m sure that they need the money they are charging. On the other hand, I still fantacize that the school would pay for the education they refuse to provide for my child.

  3. We splurged on an EPGY writing course the summer before last, but there was no way to afford it this year. Fortunately, we found the Gifted Kids Network.

    I love this program, and the price tag. This summer, both kids are taking the Animal Planet enrichment class and my middle school child is taking the Cool Tools (digital photo, video, and web design class.)

    See http://www.onlivingbylearning.com/2008/05/16/bright-and-wired-the-gifted-kids-network

  4. EPGY is crazy-expensive, but BYU and U of Indiana (and others) are much more affordable. EPGY is more interactive, more like being with an actual class, though.

  5. You question what people did before.. I can tell you that my brother was bored like crazy and got in with the the wrong people and drugs. Then our parents sent him to college a year early to try to challenge him and all. It was the 70s, college was more drugs and with the bad habits he had, didn’t work.

    He would have been a perfect candidate to be homeschooled.

    Thankfully, my DS (18 and college bound) is very much like his uncle but has been homeschooled.

  6. I knew more than one person like him…unfortunately. I’m glad your son’s getting homeschooled. It’s not for everyone, naturally, but I think it’s pretty much the best option for kids who really, really don’t fit the system for whatever reason.

  7. Thanks for writing this and explaining the process. I hadn’t heard of the first two programs. These programs also sound like they might be more reasonably priced than the later.

    What happened in the past and still happens is that kids drop out. I have several siblings that took that route.

    I am going to link your blog. It is so smart and well written.

  8. Hey, thanks!

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  10. Hey! We are splurging and using EPGY in the Fall. I must admit that I hve looked at BYU for teh most part because you recommended it. I know you have a great head on your shoulders and wouldn’t rec something that isn’t decent.
    Thanks!
    Forte

  11. I liked BYU overall — we did 7th-grade English and found it to be a decent, nonscary introduction to the wonderful world of graded assignments. The reading primarily consisted of short stories and the tests primarily asked for factual recall. Writing was mostly journal entries or free responses and was overall not as structured as I would have preferred, and (unlike EPGY, I believe), you don’t get much teacher feedback on writing, but as I said, it was a nice “hors d’oeuvre,” as it were.

    Hope that helps.

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  14. Well, in my case, plunged into the horrors of junior high after a good K-6 experience, I skipped one grade (after a not-at-all-politely pitched battle), was further accelerated in math, went to CTY for four years over the summer, and spent the remaining 46 weeks of the year listless and depressed, marking time until I could escape. I wasn’t the personality type to go for drugs and wasn’t quite self-destructive enough for nihilism, so I got good grades but I didn’t have the joie de vivre available to involve myself in activities, make friends, etc. Still pretty bitter about those five years.

    I guess the other option at the time was boarding school, but my parents didn’t want to send me, and obviously that’s not affordable for everyone. I respect their reasons though I think they made the wrong call.

  15. There are days I really think that forcing gifted children to socialize with normal children should be considered child abuse.

  16. I heartily agree. Luthor. :)
    Adso, we are using EPGY for Maths! :) I have looked into the Royal FW Press for English in the Fall ( MC Thompson) and I’d be curious what your take is on his stuff.
    Forte

  17. I should have quoted it, I was responding to Andromeda’s comment about being bitter about his/her school experience. I wish these kinds of home shcool programs had been available to me when I was younger. I also wish people who were more like “peers” were available as well.

    If I ever have children, I will most certainly take advantage of these kinds of programs.

  18. Luthor, I enjoy your bluntness. ;-)

    Forte, you’ve got to tell me how EPGY goes for math — I’m curious to hear about your experience. I don’t know about Royal FW Press, though — would you link me??

  19. Sure, Ad!
    I’ll mail ya;)
    Forte

  20. The Gifted Kids Network is a web based supplemental gifted and talented programming model that includes accelerated or advanced content and affective programming. Enrolled students from schools and districts throughout the United States are able to come together in a private secure online environment to engage in high level content with other gifted peers. Gifted Kids Network utilizes technologies such as wikis, blogs, social bookmarking, collaborative documents, podcasting and video or photo sharing to create a virtual gifted program that is collaborative, connected, and social.
    http://www.giftedkidsnetwork.com

  21. Thanks, Michelle. I’ll look into it.

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