Algebra and AP: No, Not For Everyone

Jay Mathews, the outspoken Washington Post writer and frequent advocate for increased early enrollment in algebra courses, apparently needs eyes in the back of his head this week because of the backpedaling he’s having to do on his previously-held assertions.

To Mathews’ considerable credit, though, he’s the first in line admitting his position was wrong, and I respect his integrity in doing so:

Now, because of a startling study being released today, I am having second thoughts.

Tom Loveless, director of the Brown Center on Education Policy at the Brookings Institution, has looked at the worst math students, those scoring in the bottom 10th on the National Assessment of Educational Progress eighth-grade test. He discovered that 28.6 percent of them — let me make that clear: nearly three out of every 10 — were enrolled in first-year algebra, geometry or second-year algebra. Almost all were grossly misplaced, probably because of the push to get kids into algebra sooner.

The problem with Mathews is that he doesn’t go far enough in examining his other assertions about increasing enrollment in other challenging classes, specifically Advanced Placement courses. Mathews has repeatedly asserted a position on AP enrollment that essentially amounts to “the more, the better,” arguing that all students would benefit from AP courses regardless of their previous preparation or ability. Many people — including me — would love it if Mathews were to apply his new realizations about algebra to his earlier assertions about AP and ask, “Say, am I wrong here, too?”

The More Child , a marvelous blog on giftedness and education, quotes Dorothy, a commenter on Mathews’ articles in the Washington Post on the issue of pushing kids into AP courses and increasing AP enrollment in general. Dorothy stated,

…I have been corresponding in email with Jay …Jay refused to budge. Said that as long as the AP exam is required, teachers *never* water down the curriculum. …Since it is a College Level Course then it must Be Real Hard And Rigorous! Told me flat out that Finn doesn’t know anything, as all he did was go to a focus group. Jay on the other hand, has been studying AP for 20 years all over the country and knows best.

Well, hey. I haven’t been studying AP for 20 years all over the country. I’ve just been teaching in my little corner over here, and not for 20 years, at that. Still, I may have some insights.


Here’s one: Jay is wrong.

Here’s why: Jay is right in asserting that the AP test drives the curriculum. However, what happens when you pack an AP class full of a substantial percentage of students who aren’t prepared to understand the material because they lack native talent, previous exposure and practice, or dedicated effort, teachers have little choice BUT to water down the curriculum.

I know AP English best, so let me talk about that a bit — my examples are going to be better than if I tried to pretend I actually knew anything about, say, AP Calculus. Hypothetically speaking, let’s say you had a class in AP Literature and Composition. What most AP Lit teachers know very well is that the AP basically has only one main question, and it is this: What is the author’s point, and how does s/he use language to get us to see it?

What do you do, though, with a class who has a hard time comprehending the notion of “an author’s point”? What do you do when those students assert, “The point of Romeo and Juliet is to show love and suicide” (No, those are some of the topics of Romeo and Juliet, not the point of the work), or “The point of Eliot’s ‘The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock’ is to show depression” (No, again, depression is an element in the work, but it is not the author’s judgment, opinion, or insight into human nature, all of which are what is meant by “the author’s point”)?

If you’re like most teachers, you teach and teachandteachandteach and explainexplainexplain what the author’s point is; you give example after example to illustrate the differences between theme and topic, between theme and sub-theme, between a small-scale insight-with-a-lowercase-i and large-scale INSIGHT-with-a-capital. You do this because, like most teachers, you want your students to succeed, and dangit, if they don’t understand this fundamental, foundational, crucial, elementary concept, the rest of the course just doesn’t matter. It’s like trying — well, it’s like trying to teach algebra to people who haven’t got a strong grasp of the fundamentals of math.

Too many students are “grossly misplaced” in AP courses of all kinds, and this gross misplacement happens for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that the College Board has begun utzing schools to “eliminate barriers to AP.” In the past, if you wanted AP you had to, you know, be qualified for it. In most cases, you had to have As in your previous English courses, or be recommended by your teacher, or maybe even take and pass a pre-test to demonstrate that you were prepared for the difficulty of the material. No longer.

The College Board casts its actions as a Politically Correct Crusade, positioning themselves as breaking down those MEAN, MEAN, discriminatory walls erected against otherwise-talented and academically successful students who would all get “5″s if only their intellectually elitist, latté-sipping MEAN-ASS teachers would Just Let Them IN.

Um. The fact that the College Board makes eighty bucks every time a student takes an AP test would, of course, have nothing to do with this push to increase AP enrollment at all. Not at all. Nopeitty nope-nope.

Jay, I’ve got news for you: It’s not that simple. See, I’m guessing that most AP teachers, latté-sipping or no, don’t give a rat’s caboose about a student’s race, gender, religion, ethnicity, or socioeconomic status. If those teachers are anything like the ones I’ve met and talked with and read about and dealt with in a variety of ways both personal and professional, what they care about the most is whether or not the student can do the goddamned work. The student doesn’t even have to know a whole heck of a lot on the first day of class: s/he just has to be willing to put in the hours, days, and weeks that are required to catch up. The problem is that most often, they’re not. Too many of them think that succeeding in AP is just a matter of believing you can do it if you want to.

See, it’s what I call the Sarah Palin problem. When McCain asked her to be on his ticket, Palin stated that she “didn’t blink” when the job of being second-in-command to the leader of the most powerful nation in the world:

“I didn’t hesitate, no,…I answered him yes…because I have the confidence in that readiness and knowing that you can’t blink, you have to be wired in a way of being so committed to the mission, the mission that we’re on, reform of this country and victory in the war, you can’t blink. So I didn’t blink then even when asked to run as his running mate.”

What Palin is discovering is that “confidence” isn’t enough. Attitude is no substitute for experience and education and ability. As the delightful mockery of Palin and Clinton on SNL accurately and brilliantly suggests, just because you “want something” — even if you want it REALLY, REALLY BADLY, it doesn’t mean you’re going to get it.

Bottom line, the worst disservice being committed here is not just to the students who are completely overwhelmed with material that they don’t like, don’t understand, and won’t study. When too many administrators of those teachers pressure them into “helping students to succeed” *coughinflatinggradescough* and students with As in class end up with 1s or 2s on the test, this is hardly helpful.

And of course, pushing for AP enrollment, even when students are “grossly unqualified” has NOTHING to do with some school administrators wanting to score high on the Challenge Index, a ranking of high schools based on the simple calculus of the number of graduating seniors divided by number of AP tests taken…a report invented by — you guessed it! — Jay Mathews.

Nope. Nopitty-nope-nope. Not a thing.

Needless to say, though the Challenge Index is theoretically intended to suggest that the schools scoring highest on the Index are more academically demanding and intellectually rigorous than others scoring lower, the Mathews ranking doesn’t waste its time looking into such irrelevancies as the number of students who actually PASSED the AP with grades of “3″ or better. Theoretically, anyway, a school could have 100% of its seniors take various AP exams and fail them all, and end up waaaaay high on Mathews’ Index.

Good idea.

Packing AP courses with unqualified, unwilling students hurts more than those students alone. It’s also a huge disservice to the students with genuine commitment and talent. AP has frequently been touted as the reason it’s not important to have gifted education at the high school level — the idea being that AP is so demanding that it in itself provides gifted education.

Again, it’s not that simple. When a significant number of students in a class do not understand fundamental concepts, this is not gifted education because the teacher cannot proceed beyond the very bottom of the Bloom’s taxonomic pyramid: there’s just no point in building a house on a foundation of quicksand. When the teacher of the AP course has to de-select materials, questions, or passages because s/he knows those items will simply be beyond the capacity of many of her or his students to understand, this is not gifted education either. When the teacher has to explain and explain a fundamental concept over and over, AP isn’t gifted education.

Actually, the word would be…”remedial.”

Thanks, Jay.

Note: I just found another teacher’s reflections on this same issue at The New Intellectual Pursuit.  DEFINITELY worth reading!





~ by adsoofmelk on September 28, 2008.

16 Responses to “Algebra and AP: No, Not For Everyone”

  1. Wow, Adso! So much to chew on. Again, hearing the viewpoint of a real live in-the-classroom teacher is so valuable.

    Three quick comments. One thing that you didn’t touch upon is something we are seeing here in Montgomery County: the elimination of Honors level classes in high school. In many area high schools it’s a choice between grade level English and AP English. You can imagine the result. Good, average to above average kids are forced to choose between a class that may be over their heads, or a class rife with unmotivated students, disciplinary issues, and less rigor.

    The Washington Post Company owns–surprise–Kaplan Test Preparation. It’s also the parent company of Newsweek which, thanks to Jay, is well on its way to becoming to high school rankings what U.S. News and World Report is to college ranking.

    And finally, I love your use of that Palin quote:

    PALIN: I — I answered him yes because I have the confidence in that readiness and knowing that you can’t blink, you have to be wired in a way of being so committed to the mission, the mission that we’re on, reform of this country and victory in the war, you can’t blink.

    I think this captures nicely the relentless, zealous, blinkered worldview of our school system’s leaders.

  2. WOW, SwitchedOnMom.

    In the words of a famous Washington Post writer, all you’ve got to do is FOLLOW THE MONEY.

  3. I enjoyed this post.

  4. I’m feeling the pain of this right now. I had students in a regular English class last year. At the end of the year, they asked if I would recommend them for Advanced English. To each of them, I explained how much more rigorous and challenging the class would be. After promising how they would apply themselves, I gave a few of them recommendations. Lucky me, I got many of them in my own Advanced English class this year. Two of the four are doing fine, but the other two in my class have been either failing or barely passing since school began…and we haven’t even done anything very challenging, yet.

    I have since realized that I need to remember that I have a different set of standards for my Advanced class. In regular English, hard work can generally compensate for ability. In my Advanced class, hard work simply isn’t enough on its own. There has to be a stronger ability.

  5. As homeschoolers, I felt the pressure to prepare my history-loving son for the AP exams. In the end, we decided against it because the process was too much teaching-to-the-test. He loves to read, talk and write history but the test prep was constraining. I don’t doubt he would have easily passed a high school class and the test but we have chosen not to follow that path.

    As he applies to colleges this year, I’ll have a better idea if our decision was a mistake.

  6. I’ve never understood Mr. Matthews’ conviction that simply enrolling students who at best have an extremely slim chance of successfully passing the AP exam is going to benefit those kids. It’s like sticking a bunch of couch potatoes in a marathon-training program. They would be much better off first pursuing a more attainable goal like a 10k.

    Let’s get the kids to successfully complete a grade-level course before worrying about having them attempt college-level work.

  7. I wonder how we’ll handle the AP testing issue too — I imagine it will depend on the girls’ goals for college. If they see it as a necessary hurdle, fine, and if they don’t care about getting into a top school (I’m all for sending them to our state university), that’s fine too.

    Your post helped me again to remember that acceleration is no boon if you’re just getting to average curriculum earlier.

  8. Yeah, Languagelover, there’s got to be stronger ability, but man — too many teachers have to face the one-two punch of an administration reluctant to face down parents with the truth, and parents unwilling to face it. ARGH. It’s not a personal insult if a child is of average ability!

  9. Hi Adso, thought you’d enjoy this:

    http://www.eschoolnews.com/news/top-news/index.cfm?i=55294

    Report: High school graduates increasingly unprepared for college
    work, remediation falls most heavily to community colleges
    From eSchool News staff and wire service reports

    Enrollment in remedial courses is increasing as students are
    unprepared after high school.

    It’s a tough lesson for millions of students just now arriving on
    campus: even if you have a high school diploma, you may not be ready for college.

    In fact, a new study calculates, one-third of American college
    students have to enroll in remedial classes. The bill to colleges and taxpayers for trying to bring them up to speed on material they were supposed to learn in high school comes to between $2.3 billion and $2.9 billion annually. (more…)

  10. Here’s a silly question, SwitchedOnMom: Why do colleges even *accept* students if they need remediation? Why do they offer remedial classes? I can understand community colleges filling in that knowledge gap, sure, but why do four-year universities bother?

  11. What about the students who are otherwise capable but need remediation in a single area? This is particularly an issue with older, non-traditional students who may have been out of high school for a decade or more. I’m not sure that I’d be able to pass a college math placement test at this point in my life even though once upon a time I got A’s in calculus and a 700 on the SAT-M. I haven’t used anything beyond basic arithmetic and *VERY* low-level algebra since graduation…

  12. What you said about confidence rings vey true to me. It seems to be apathological obsession with believing that confidence is somehow enough or even required. Darwin & Lincoln spent most of their adult lives clinically depressed. By modern standards they should have been failures.

  13. Great article. It’s a waste of good teachers’ time when they have to teach the basics of any subject to students who should be advanced. It also cheats the students who are there because of their efforts and abilities. It’s not fair to those who need the basics because they won’t get anything extra out of the class.

    Your post helps me relax when I feel I am lingering too long at a ground level concept in order to make sure my students “get it” before moving on. I would much rather that my kids be strong in what they do, than have a grade that is nothing more than a status symbol. College level should be college level – nothing less.

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  15. I’d like to add some of my conversation with Mr. Mathews regarding this high school ranking system in Newsweek. He has certainly created an income generator for himself, as well as an easy way for high schools to make sure they appear more successful than they actually are.

    The conversation below is regarding the methodology of the Newsweek list. I’ve complained about it to Mr. Mathews, the creator and will include my email conversation below. The formula is very basic. They take the number of AP courses TAKEN BY ALL at a certain school and divide that number by the number of seniors. That’s it – there’s nothing more to it. Lakeside remains on this list because they offer AP courses to sophomores, juniors and seniors and highly encourage students to take them – beginning in the sophomore year. Why? To beef up that first number – total AP course TAKEN – knowing full well that the other number – total number of seniors – will always remain proportionately low – due to the fact that so many students give up on Lakeside before making it to their senior year. Great manipulation, eh?

    Data is malleable – never take it at its face value – there is always someone behind the curtain manipulating data in their favor – usually in order to somehow line their own pockets. I like to look behind the curtain – lots of folks don’t like that. Lakeside leadership doesn’t like it – as it shines the light on the fact that they are not serving ALL of their students and Mr. Mathews doesn’t like it because it invalidates his “research” – which for him has been a great gig.

    Dear Mr. Mathews,

    I am writing to you because I cannot stand to look at your list of “Top High Schools” without responding anymore. Every year, my neighborhood school, Lakeside High School in Atlanta makes it to your list and then spends day in and day out exercising their bragging rights. However, my hometown school in Ohio never seems to make your list, and ironically, nor do they care even though they are head and shoulders a better school than Lakeside. The leadership at Lakeside, however, has figured out your formula and subsequently works very hard each year to “work their numbers.” I spend countless hours pointing out failing graduation rates at Lakeside to our leadership, only to be ignored due to the overwhelming positive PR they receive from securing a place on your list. You see, every year, Lakeside enrolls nearly 500 freshmen, and every year, they only manage to graduate about 250-300 seniors. They offer more
    AP courses than practically every other school in the county, and encourage sophomores, juniors and seniors to take them. The course is either watered down or over the heads of most of the students, but Lakeside leadership doesn’t care, because they know that if lots of underclassmen take the courses, they can divide that number by their now small number of seniors and look quite successful and wind up listed in Newsweek!!!

    My hometown school, on the other hand, not only offers honors level courses, but also offers wonderful opportunities for each and every student to thrive – be it in the visual arts, musical arts, sciences, math, languages, vocational/technical or sports. Nearly every student who enrolls there as a freshman graduates their senior year feeling accomplished, gifted and ready for the next chapter of life. Lakeside allows many students who struggle to just leave – not only that, but they never follow-up to find out why they left or even care where they went. We are talking about at least 100 students in each and every class!

    I would strongly recommend that you revise your “formula” to include drop-out rates by comparing the number of entering freshmen vs the number of graduating seniors. I would even go so far as to suggest that there are other qualities that make a school truly “top” – mainly being able to serve EVERYONE, not just the ones who can handle the “program.” This is high school – not Harvard.

    you think Lakeside would be a better school if it didn’t try to encourage students to take AP?–jay

    No – I’m just pointing out that your formula for rating schools on your list is misleading. There are many other things that make a school great – for example, serving all who enter. It is a public school after all but many who attend there like to treat it as if it’s private. Lakeside has an 800# gorilla called drop-outs. Every year they have about 400-500 freshmen and only about 260-325 seniors. No one ever bothers to investigate where all of those students disappear to (many of whom are Hispanic.) I just get frustrated by all of the attention on high achievers, when there is a very large population at that school who are not served. Thanks for reading my note at least!

  16. This is so true. My honors and ap classes are often flooded with students who should not be there. It definately hurts my education to be in classes with students who don’t understand. The teachers must constatly back up to deal with these students who don’t understand. Last year in honors englidh several kids couldn’t get that I go you go and she goes. They were native english speakers. I can do better than that in spanish. I could do better in my first year of spanish.
    Teachers push the ap classes too much and even remove lower level classes to force students to take them. All it does is cause the students who would have done okay to get poor grades in the high level classes they cannot handle. It also reduces the quality of educatrion for those who can handle it because as we constantly repeat things we may not get to all the material we need to cover.
    This hurts everyone. The high level and meduium level students.

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